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Post by orangesoda on Oct 30, 2008 23:24:27 GMT -5
Nice job!
3 reds and 1 orange dead. The only person we lost was rainfall. No one lost from our network. How many of them are left you think?
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Post by witchdoctordbm on Oct 31, 2008 0:40:54 GMT -5
Rad! I don't know if everyone knew this, but I was a former Champion in one of the circuits (I'm assuming minor) and I get some kind of unspecified power boost if I become the new champion. Woo!
Did you see me beat the shit out of sportzboy? That was pretty sweet.
Oh, and nice job on Monkeyfeet, Altair! Was Mr. D the random casualty?
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Post by altair on Oct 31, 2008 1:00:58 GMT -5
Sadly, I think the sleeping Infidel is the random "casualty" of my spin punch. But I hope he'll agree it's worth it in the end. XD
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 9:53:00 GMT -5
Aye, we kicked some major ass today! Well done everyone!
Should we invite RU in?
I'm a little worried that RU could've rode in on Rainfall's bandwagon so that he could seem on the level (and thus infiltrate the good guys)
But the actions of today seem to prove some things:
1) The Mafia seems to be getting either one or two kills, which will not save them now. The tide has turned in our favor, dramatically.
2) RU and Rainfall were telling the truth. Now, whether RU was sacrificing Oats at that point to try and earn trust so that he could get into the network/get the championship, I'm not positive. (Would Rainfall have exposed RU in that situation?) It could be that RU and Rainfall were masoned (making Minor Circuit B a reality... Rainfall was in Minor Circuit, but not with us), which I find to be reasonable... except I don't know why they'd both expose themselves.
3) We now have dominant position over the unknowns by -almost- a 2 to 1 margin.
4) If we look at the pattern of Mason Groups, there seems to have been a mason group of 3 and a mason group of 4 in each circuit (except Minor, which was unknown).
Our original Minor Circuit mason group consists of 4 people, which means if that pattern was followed, then there are 3 people in Minor Circuit B.
2 people from what could've been Minor Circuit B have died (Rainfall and WildPathA05). Which means one person from Minor Circuit B is alive... which lends some credence to the fact that RU may be the last good guy left in the game that's not on our team yet.
What we know for sure is, if we can keep the Vig's alive for just a couple more days, we will dominate the Mafia. We're literally 2-3 days from wiping all of the unknowns off of the map (even if we DIDN'T ally with RU) and claiming utter and complete victory.
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 10:01:04 GMT -5
The only two people who have claimed (to me, or publicly in RU's case) to be good and are still alive are:
Toxic Toys Romantic Undead
And if my theory above is true, then there's only **ONE** good guy left. The rest are either neutrals or bad guys. It seems to me like there's only a slim chance that there's any independant good guys (maybe Little Mac if he's out there?)
Actually, that's a good point. Little Mac could potentially be an independant good guy... if there is a Little Mac (I theorized on this yesterday I think).
Toxic Toys just voted for Romantic Undead to get the title, and Romantic Undead is pushing to get the title as well... if he's a good guy and has an ability like Witch Doctor's, I can't blame him.
Anyways, I don't know what to make of that, but I figured I'd throw it over here for us to think about.
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 10:21:08 GMT -5
Also, if it's helpful, my incapacitation ability worked against Dac Vin. I don't know if CC's worked as well (apparently we ended up hitting the same person), but at least Dac Vin won't be able to do anything other than vote.
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 10:27:47 GMT -5
Oh, I forgot, JPants also made a claim that insinuated that he was a good guy, too. That makes:
JPants Toxic Toys Romantic Undead
claiming that they're good guys.
We also have one more piece of evidence. Oats told us that we should hit Rainfall and Romantic Undead before Oats went down (which of course we didn't do). They obviously hit Rainfall... but if Oats was looking to protect RU or seed him into our group, wouldn't have have just targeted Rainfall with his "kill this person too" speech?
If he was doing it on the hope that RU wouldn't be randomly picked by us, that's a big leap of faith. My guess is that RU's not on the bad guys' side given that fact. But I still have my reservations... they may have just gone for a leap of faith.
We could make a new subforum *just* for all of us and RU, in case RU turns out to be a bad guy, and then hide our most important people (Vig's and Guardians) from it. Though at this point, they could infer by process of elimination who our most valuable people are too (since we have virtually every good guy in the game in this network). I guess that's one downside of being in such a large network. Not that that's much of a downside. =)
I wonder if the bad guys even realize how massive our network is? I wonder if there's ever been a network this large in any Mafia game ever? It's fun to be in it! =)
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 10:29:32 GMT -5
Oh, I just had an idea.
Assume that the bad guys have no clue how large our network is.
Could we use that to our advantage? I can't think of a way at the moment, but maybe one of you smart fellows can think of some kind of "bait" strategy that we can use to lure out who the remaining good guy (s?) are (is?), and who's totally full of it.
The fact that our network has become this massive must be something we can take advantage of, aside from dominating the vote (which we can now, handily).
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 10:42:10 GMT -5
Doxa FunkyWaltDogg Wildcat Dac Vin
Are the four remaining unknown players who haven't tried to claim they're a good guy to us.
We might as well go down the list, I see no reason not to (unless we find some way to bait one of the people mentioned above into revealing that they're not actually the remaining good guy).
VOTE: Doxa
Witch Doctor: TKO FunkyWaltDogg.
Altair: Use your ability (be it kill or incapacitate) on Wildcat.
Me: I'm going to attempt to incapacitate Dac Vin again.
CrimsonCoyote: Hit Toxic Toys or JPants? They seem the least likely of the group of 3 to actually BE good guys.
Does anyone else have any abilities we can use?
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 10:44:23 GMT -5
Before I vote, I want to make sure... do you guys agree with this course of action? We might as well go down the list I think. I can't imagine that any of the people we're set to kill OR incapacitate tonight can be good guys at this point. And if they are, it's a small price to pay to reduce the unknown list even further.
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Post by orangesoda on Oct 31, 2008 10:51:02 GMT -5
Plan of action sounds fine to me. Don't bring anyone else in the netwrok directly. Just communicate with them through PMs for now, just in case they are trying to infiltrate. I have an ability to send someone's action wild. Give me a target.
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 10:53:24 GMT -5
Aye, can do.
Hmm, wild actions... I almost wonder if, at this point, it might hurt us more than help us to use it. There's so few bad guys left.
If it's worth using, I'd use it on one of the people in the unknowns list. Don't use it on the "questionables" though I think.
I'll start the Doxa vote.
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 11:01:02 GMT -5
Also, should we vote RU for the title?
I think if we outright vote for Witch Doctor, it could make him a big target... and he's too valuable to make a target at the moment, being our only full Vig. Whatever powerup you may get, Witch Doctor, it's not worth losing a vig ability for if you get killed to get the title.
Wait... the first night you were going to hit RU with the TKO, right Witch Doctor?
And it missed.
He was indeed protected by someone. Does that lend credence to the fact that he might be a good guy?
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Post by altair on Oct 31, 2008 11:03:04 GMT -5
I agree with what you guys said. Sadly I can't use my punching ability again til tomorrow. : \
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Post by vthornheart on Oct 31, 2008 11:06:54 GMT -5
That's okay Altair, no worries!
We've got them against the ropes, no matter what.
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